F Tuesday, December 9, 1980. The Other Press Goebbels type propaganda Dear Editor, Some posters around the New Westminster campus put up by the Socialist Discussion Group concern- ing abortion have come to my attention. While I wished to express my views on the subject, I did not feel that those who spent their time discussing socialism would e receptive to reason. How- ver, the issue the group was discussing, namely the Pro-Choice argument riles me, to say the least. Other posters around the campus, announcing a Pro- Choice rally are master- pieces of Goebbels-type pro- paganda. They espouse a desire to protect the rights of women, women who in most cases don’t want to be responsible for their actions. The Pro-Choice argument has a flaw in it that it fails to recognize that an unborn baby, i.e. a foetus, is a person, a human being, with a right to life, no matter how terrible a life it may be that the mother may prophesy for it as an excuse for an abortion. Either that or they condone murder of the de- fenceless and innocent. ‘‘Termination of the preg- nancy’’ is one example of their propaganda -- a nice way to say ‘‘kill the baby’, which doesn’t hit home with the unwary listener. Their name, Pro-Choice, is pro- paganda too, as they should be called Pro-Death, as they are only interested in help- Loveless stinks Dear Editor, It’s too bad that ‘‘Tecnica difficulties’’ prevented you from running the picture o! Ron Loveless. I’m sure many people would find his face funnier than his comic strip His comic strip is dull humorless and hard to read the latter due to poor print ing. Normally, I take grea) joy in reading comic strips in ny paper. In the case ol The Other Press; however, it Dear Mr. Glark, I would like to open this reply with a quote by Salva- dor Dali, who stated, ‘‘No masterpiece was ever creat- ed by a lazy artist.’’ -Don’t get me _ wrong, Clarke, I like criticism, es- pecially if it is constructive criticism, but yours was neither, it was downright insulting! However, it did bring forth some good points: 1) I realize my printing is not up to standards but I never exploited the fact that my handwriting was good. I do, however, feel my art- work is good. I am coping with the printing problem ' because you are not the first to bring up the subject. 2) Just because you ‘think my comics are beyond the a aCe THANK YOU I wish to take this oppor- tunity to thank all those who made our recent White Ele- phant and Book Sale on Surrey campus a success. Without your donations of goods and without your sup- port at the sale, we would not have collected just over $43; we would not now be able to make a donation to the Cancer Society on behalf of Douglas College students, faculty and staff. Many thanks on behalf of the ABE department, Carrie Dahl. is more like a chore to read Loveless’ strip. I would hope for the sake of saving him- self embarassment, he doe: not pursue writing comic strips as a career. Person: ally, I find the ad for condoms funnier than Love. less and I suggest you run it in the place of his cartoon. The guy STINKS! Gary Clark p-s. To Ron Loveless Nothing Personal. Downright insulting! grasp of your personal ap- peal does not mean to say that they are humourless. My art form is very person- al. It comes from the heart, my heart, and as far as humour is concerned I am somewhat hidered by the moral standards of The Oth- er Press. Otherwise I could put forth some excellent material only found in the best underground comix. 3) Torturing my work is one thing, but torturing my phy- sical appearance is a bad move on anybodys part. Your cheap shots are badly taken and those were very cheap shots. The person you criticize could come off with a few insults of his own, but I wouldn’t stoop that low. As far as I am concerned, Gary Clarke, you do not make it as a critic and if you want to make it in the world of criticism you should be more constructive and less insult- ing. If you are so concerned’ about my personal appear- ance then maybe you should see me at the next produc- tion night on the New West- minster campus and you can have a look at the person you insulted. Maybe then we can both have a good laugh because I’m sure under your exo-plasma shell you are probably a nice person. Ron Loveless p.s. you'll recognize me, I'll be the funny-looking one. ‘ course ing those who want to kill their baby, not those who want to let him or her live. The only choice is whether or not to fall victim of their propaganda. And that’s what abortion is, killing, usually because the baby is inconvenient. The Pro-Choicers say it is not a personuntil it is born, ice. the foetus is not a person. Posh! A woman's pregnancy is roughly nine months, but some babies are born prematurely, while others may be born long overdue. Birth was the stage chosen by primitive people as the beginning of life because they didn’t under- stand the human metabol- ism. We know today it is not a fixed time and doesn’t represent a change in the humanity of the individual. In the case of the doctor who, when he removed the foetus during an abortion and found it would nor die, strangled it to death, was that not yet a person? Of course it was. It was living and breathing on it’s own. But the mother had found it’s life. inconvenient. Let’s face it, in today’s world of low moral stand- ards, women can and do get pregnant easily, without re- gard for the consequences, and are now scared that - their ultimate form of birth control may be denied them. Their rallies help to bolster them, to give each other confidence, to try to keep themselves thinking they’re right. The Pro-Choice propagan- da tries to lump all Pro-Life: people into one group and call them ‘‘religious zealots’’ and this, along with expell- ing them from their rallies, attempts to keep their audi- ences from taking the Pro- Life arguments seriously. This is a cheap trick known as ‘‘poisoning the well.’’ However, their biggest lie, in my view, is that it is a woman’s right to abortion. Who has the right to mur- der? Whereas a woman may vie for the rights of sexual promiscuity and freedom from parenthood, these nev- er supersede the right to life of any human being. Of there are a few exceptions, but for the maj- ority of abortions, which are basically for convenience, this holds true. ’ I find it sad that in a society that has striven to improve the health and liv- ing conditions of the world, which has saved and pro- longed many, many lives, which has enabled more babies to be concieved yet prevent the conception of too many, and which had lower- ed the infant mortality rate drastically, there are now factions trying to convince us that it is morally right and socially beneficial to put it up again. Nic’ »las Roberts Benny McGraw: I don’t know. I passed everything but I think they should do away with the finals. Ian Macdonald: Let me think for a minute. I prob- ably gat an A there, a B there, another B there and another B. I probably got an A and three B’s. page five | Gary Bartley: Well, I have- n’t done much yet, after all the ski slopes only just opened. But I got some new skis and boots and when I hit those moguls....Oh!!! You mean in school. Maybe we better stick to skiing. Jeff Beamish: I’ve taken Com 265 twice now so I think I’m ready to become copy boy for The Other Press. That is if I can get this lettuce out of my mouth. age of The Other Press is reserved solely for jose of correspondence and opinion. The views. yn this page do not necessarily reflect those of —