the other press om Mellish DP Contributor | meet with mossE at the Pen Coffee shop at the border of Sapperton. He pulls up on a vintage motorcycle, and dofts his hel- et. He’s a lanky guy with dyed black air, wearing engineer boots, black eather, and lots of silver. It seems to be im, because nobody else—amongst the buits and geriatric set that inhabit the con- dominiums—tend dress like that. : Pretty cool, huh. : Yeah. Played here when I was a kid— you used this setting in your book, a cou- ple times. M: After the riot, when they closed the place down, I came here to play with a hildhood friend...ah, Tommy—yeah. IT’: Before the police? : They—um—-started practising here, he Pigs. I remember seeing the SWAT eams, and their dogs...and that was the pnd of that. Really cool though, like an bid castle. Couldn't believe the damage to he cells. Those guys punched holes hrough the concrete walls. Amazing shit. If: And you used it for the brainwashing egment. : Yeah. And this coffee shop. I was orig- nally thinking of having [Ray] escape rough transcendental meditation. But € programming session seemed more in eeping with the idea of control. You Ow. Culture http://otherpress.douglas.bc.ca Interview with moss€ T: I've got to ask you. What was behind Seline dying at the end—after all, she is the main character. M: Well—Id done a bunch of edits. This is something that I want to do now, but back then I just wanted to get it to the printers. My editor bailed on me—said it was too scary. I'd sent thing to everyone in the industry—best letter back was from Kinsella’s agent who said that I would benefit from workshopping the character. Sorry. Getting off track. Umm. The whole thing is moving towards integrating Seline with the Marla character—that was the direction I was moving in. I read it now, and it’s not flat-out obvious—but Marla and Seline are the same person. Ray and Barney are the same character. Got it? T: Yeah. That makes sense now. So, every- thing that follows Marla’s head being cut off is extraneous. M: All in her head... as it were. I think the brain continues thinking after its dead. T: What’s your favourite character? M: In DUP Umm...definitely Frottager Bill (laughs). That guy cracks me up. I wrote about him in another story. You know what a frottager is. Right? T: Someone who humps legs. M: Yeah (laughs). mossE enjoying the fruits of his labour T: Just to backtrack, one of the main com- plaints about your book is the lack of characterization. That the characters are too three dimensional, and that you are working with mainly plot and backdrop. M: Well—you could say that about Tolkien too, and even the artists who work on his stuff find it so inviting because they can fill in the details. Who cares about character? Gimme a comic book any day. Anyways, the piece is a social commentary about what's wrong with the Canadian psyche. T: And, if you could sum that up, what would that be? M: Oh—self-loathing. We're all in denial. I mean, people immigrate here to live in a fantasy world, and are pretty pissed off when they figure it out. We've totally ripped off the First Nations people, pol- luted the land, and while we're at that we're completely abusing one another. T: The dedication at the front of your book is to the Prisoners of the Drug War. Could you talk more on that? M: Well, I think it should be pretty obvi- ous. It gets back to your other question. All the characters have been brought up to hate themselves—and the easiest way to get out of that place is to medicate them- selves. I think at one point I go into the whole “dealing with the symptoms, but not the cause” issue. T: And what would the cause be? M: God, you're like the holy inquisition or something. Let’s see. This country is a colony. It’s set up with the idea of domi- nation. I hate to coin a Hollywood movie, but we're born into bondage. We're not waking up, and asking ourselves what would we do if we could live our lives the way we want—we're living someone else's. T: I think one of the most frightening things in your book was the personifica- tion of the Hill in New Westminster. I February 26, 2003 kept feeling like it was the back of a mon- ster. M: It was originally called the Grom, which is a play on morgue spelled back- wards. At the eleventh hour I changed the name. I should have let it be, but I’m always taking things apart. I get more into that in the next book. I wanted to plunge into that fantasy place that is underneath New West, and have a twilight land where cities are built on top of walking hills. T: The relationship between the hill is almost symbiotic. M: What does that mean? (He flips open a small notebook and writes the word down.) T: Mutually beneficial. People are taking care of the monster, and the monster is in a sense “taking care” of them. M: Feed the city—it lives! T: So is there anything new in the works. M: Yeah—just got published in a small press anthology of horror [Thirteen Stories], and I’m tinkering with the next book. T: Earlier you expressed displeasure with the publishing industry. Is this the reason you've decided to go small? M: Well, it’s either publish or perish, as they say. I’m not going to wait for the bas- tards to get with it. T: And often good writers don’t get pub- lished purely because of economics rather than art. M: It’s just really frustrating. I know that they’re thinking “what sells” and “profit.” I suppose the best way to go is some kind of a marriage between the two, but I’m less interested in romancing the public. If they wanna get between my covers, they'll have to read some pretty heavy crap... and anyways, most people don't like the smell of sh*t. C0 Were aa aa 6 Pe Ya end a ee